Broken Brains with Bruce Parkman
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Broken Brains with Bruce Parkman
Neuroplasticity and Brain Recovery: Dr. Brody Miller’s Guide to Healing
In this conversation, Bruce Parkman and Dr. Brody Miller discuss the critical issues surrounding brain health, particularly in relation to repetitive trauma from sports and military service. Dr. Miller shares his personal journey of overcoming brain dysfunction through neuroplasticity and various healing methods. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding brain injuries, advocating for proper testing and treatment, and exploring alternative approaches to brain health. Dr. Miller introduces his upcoming book, which outlines a structured method for brain recovery and emphasizes the need for education and empowerment in the realm of brain health.
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00:00Introduction to Brain Health and Trauma
06:02Healing Through Neuroplasticity: Methods and Practices
12:07Understanding Brain Injury and Recovery Strategies
18:06The Importance of Brain Health Testing
26:58Alternative Approaches to Brain Health
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Hey folks, Bruce Parkman here from Broken Brain, sponsored by the Mack Parkman Foundation, where we take a look at repetitive brain trauma from the angles of repetitive head impacts and contact sports, repetitive blast exposure from a veteran's community, and look at how this is impacting our brains to create the largest preventable cause of mental illness in this country. And how do we find these people, diagnose these people, treat these people? And we reach out to the research community, the scientist community, the communities of innovation out there and patients themselves, parents that come on and talk about this subject, how it's impacting us and what we can do to make sports safer and how to protect our better. So glad to have you on the phone show before we get to our guests. Just want to make remind you that we are now having the first special operations tailgate at the army Navy game on December 14th. We've been hosted by blue fusion and a company and horse soldier bourbon. We're gonna have the razor's edge acdc act. We're gonna have four hours of acdc music, whiskey and stories about how it's all about raising awareness about veterans, mental health and the suicide problem that's been decimating our community for 20 plus years and what we can do to solve so. So hope to have you there.
Speaker 1:Our guest on the show today is Dr Brody Miller from Neural Transformations, and we're so excited to have this gentleman and what he represents, because this is exactly what this podcast is about. A little bit about Mr Miller. He's a doctor and a leader in brain research, brain health research and therapy. He helps people worldwide overcome brain dysfunction and unleash their cognitive potential naturally, which is huge in a world full of drugs and therapy that doesn't work. He has multiple neuroscience accreditations from highly respected universities and institutions and he's a living testimony to his work because he himself has struggled with mental illness as a result of brain damage and has powered through himself. Dr Miller, I cannot thank you enough for coming on this show. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for having me, Bruce. It's an honor to be here, to be able to talk about this subject and help people as much as I can Absolutely so how did you get involved, dr Miller?
Speaker 1:I mean, you have a background in neuroscience, you have degrees, but what got you to dealing with brain dysregulation, brain dysfunction and mental health?
Speaker 2:Well, I'll take you back 11 years ago. I'm from Asheville, north Carolina, originally. I'm from Asheville, north Carolina originally and 11 years ago I was really into some bad stuff. So I played football in high school. I had a few concussions nothing too serious, honestly but in my 20s, like a lot of young men, I was very impulsive and I was making bad decisions, and right now I think of it because of the lack of development of the frontal lobe and the prefrontal cortex.
Speaker 2:However, I was outside of a nightclub 11 years ago almost to this 11 and a half years ago now and, um, I decided it was a good idea to to fight a bouncer who was about three times my size and I ended up getting into an altercation with him outside of the nightclub, in the middle of the street, and he knocked me out. Good, you know, he knocked me out cold, uh, and unfortunately it was caught on uh local news TV stations. It went viral by. Virality was not a thing back then, but uh, there were cell phones and people recorded it and so, to add insult to the injury, it was broadcasted over a hundred thousand people it local news TV station and I really hit a dark place, a very dark brain fog, depression, suicidal ideation, and then I ended up having a brain bleed in my left frontal lobe and I ended up having surgery where they removed neurosurgery, where they removed that, they cut me open in my brain.
Speaker 2:But I continued to have. Long story short, I continued to have symptoms, really bad symptoms, grand mal, seizures. I would have concussions even after the surgery because I would faint and hit my head because I would faint and hit my head. But long story short, I found the idea of neuroplasticity about eight years ago, that the idea that the brain can change, heal and adapt in response to what we do in all of our actions, our emotions, our thoughts, our habits. And that gave me hope, because before then I had none. Slowly but surely, I rebuild my brain and I'm still doing it on a day-to-day basis, believe me because. But that gave me hope and it catapulted me to get back into a college where in the past, I was a college dropout. College where in the past, I was a college dropout. It got me back into college and my reading speed went from 200 words per minute to 615 words per minute by understanding how the brain processes information, and that really catapulted me to where I am today, in this moment.
Speaker 1:Wow, amazing story, sir. And so you had, you know, obviously some form of repetitive trauma to your health. But how did you, you know, boost your neuroplasticity? What did you? Did you use any of the electronic modalities that are out there Brain supplementation, psychedelics, I mean? What did? How did you get back? Because a lot of people that are looking at our podcast now they have brain damage. They played contact sports, they might have had an abusive childhood right or been in an abusive partnership, all which result in brain damage. So you know, the interest in healing brains is really, really high. So how did you figure this out? What did you do?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a fantastic question. I did pretty much everything and anything that holds the principles of neuroplasticity, which I may talk about a little bit later, but essentially my family. Luckily, we a hyperbaric chamber in my early recovery, so that definitely contributed to some positive things. Uh, we went. I got into meditation, which has probably been my lifesaver at this point. I got into, uh, exercise diligently every day to boost blood flow, breathing exercises. Uh, I got into all you know, you name it hypnosis. Anything I could do that can change the brain in a positive way. But it was also about the things that I stopped doing too. So it's not just about what you do, it's about what you no longer do. So, eliminating the alcohol, eliminating drugs, eliminate cigarettes, eliminating bad thoughts and bad behaviors whatever that may look like for you Changing that is basically what I did Reading, you name it.
Speaker 1:And all that effect.
Speaker 2:No psychedelics on my end, but I did have like a psychedelic-like experience from deep meditation that I got into.
Speaker 1:And that is not uncommon with people that can get into deep meditation or breath work. We hear that breath work can also provide those moments of clarity where people make connections that they sometimes can't make, you know, doing the daily grind or just simply meditating, like I do for 10 minutes or at the end of a yoga session. So let's talk about neuroplasticity. I mean, we know it's very important, we know it. You know it has some limitations that you know you can't. You know it, some limitations that you can't pick up. Completely different areas of the brain function, sometimes other than it's in, but it is a very, very important part of brain health and you're an expert on that. So let's talk about that.
Speaker 2:To the average listener out there, a veteran or a parent out there who's concerned about their kids talk a little bit about brain plasticity and what it is.
Speaker 2:Conception, yeah, yeah, I would love to.
Speaker 2:It's honestly my favorite topic because it was what gave me, it's how it got me where I am today. So, at a very basic level, I would say it's the brains and nervous system. It's also the nervous system's ability to change, heal and adapt over time in response to all that we do, all that we experience, all that we are, our thoughts, our emotions, our habits, our actions, our beliefs, our patterns and, at a very basic level, there's neurological connections, but I just call them brain cells. You know, you have a brain cell that's communicating to another brain cell and they have a communication between the two. So, in response to what we think, what we do, what we, our behaviors, these brain cells will either grow through their communications and connect and actual, the cells will grow, or they will shrink. Just like you're going to the gym to do bicep curls, you can do the same thing with your neuromuscles, with your brain muscles, and you can grow and they grow and shrink depending on what you're doing on a moment-to-moment basis. I hope that simplifies it to some extent.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, when you talk about brain cells, we know that there's many forms of brain cells with different functions within the brain itself. But you're saying that neuroplasticity is not just physical, it's not just the ability to physically heal, there's also an emotional or a more abstract part of this that helps you, like when you're talking about thoughts and um, you know to yourself, these are other forms of neuroplasticity.
Speaker 2:Yes, absolutely there's. There's basically two, two main types of neuroplasticity. So there's synaptic plasticity, which basically means that the communicational aspects of the brain cells, the communication, has improved. But there's also something that's called functional plasticity, which is the actual growing of the brain cells. So the functional just like we go to the gym and don't, gym bros will say, don't skip leg day, right, don't skip leg day bro. But like, why not apply that to the brain Because you don't want to skip on different regions that have different functions. So let's focus on the most important muscle that's sitting between our skulls.
Speaker 1:And challenging the brain is absolutely, you know, highly recommended for older folks trying to avoid dementia and stuff like that. But when it comes to a brain injury, you know what do you recommend? How do we challenge that brain? How do we stimulate that brain? Is it just, you know, like doing a puzzle, or what do you? You know, what do we challenge that brain? How do we stimulate that brain? Is it just, you know, like doing a puzzle, or what do you? You know, what do you recommend to the average, you know person out there that they can do to challenge their brain?
Speaker 1:Because this impacts not just people with damaged brains. Right, we're all getting older, we're all. We've all done things in our youth through our brain, through alcohol, drug use, whatever that probably put in a state. My mother died from vascular dementia because she smoked her whole life and her only exercise was getting up from bed and getting back in it. Right, I mean, she, you know she didn't do a lot for her brain. What are some recommendations for our listeners that are looking to boost their neuroplasticity, either after an accident or from understanding that they have, you know, a mental illness that is the result of repetitive brain trauma?
Speaker 2:I would say that if you just had a brain injury, rest absolutely is important, and I'm not negating the facts. You need more rest after an injury and that's 100% true. But the other side of that is also the movement and exercise. So just staying in a dark room locked away is not the best way to recover. So it's activation, moving, doing cognitive exercises like brain gym, exercises with your fingers and hands, eye movement, vestibular based. So there's so many things. But I would also a big piece of the puzzle is supplementing with omega-3 fatty acids after the brain injury.
Speaker 2:There's so many studies upon that because, when you think about it, we're operating at a deficiency because of the injury. That way, our brain needs more supplies than it typically needs. So give it plenty of food, plenty of rest, plenty of water, plenty of movement, plenty of so many things. But also eliminate all of the crap out of your life too, that you know you shouldn't be doing Like TikTok or whatever. That's not healthy for you to be doing uh on a moment to moment basis. Eliminate the uh. But more importantly, I guess the answer to your question is is just start. Start today, you know. Start believing in yourself and believing that you can recover. Most importantly because you can't positive. Importantly, yeah, because you can positive attitude definitely helps you.
Speaker 1:There's no doubt about that. Um, how does somebody that's had a brain injury say they're concerned? Like you mentioned, supplementation, right, we're finding out, um, through other people, like dr gordon and that you know they're, and other uh endocrinologists, brain specialists, transformation translational medicine doctors that by identifying certain deficiencies in brain chemicals, brain acids, that we can, through supplementation, almost go down to CVS and we can literally boost our brain health. How would one identify those deficiencies in the brain? To understand you know, what are the supplements I should be taking.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, there's several ways, Like you could have an in-depth test and see how your neurotransmitters are firing and how your neurochemicals, neuropeptides and neuromodulators a lot of fancy words just how your brain chemicals are functioning. You could have an in-depth test and that could give you a baseline of where you're at. But I would say nine out of 10 times, yes, you're absolutely going to have some deficiencies. So just know that and just take supplements. My recommend ones are creatine. It's not just good for muscle growth, it's actually good for cognitive functioning.
Speaker 1:Late day bro. Late day bro, it's late day. Because I always hear creatine with muscles, right, they always sell to Jim to make muscles.
Speaker 2:So that's definitely one of them. Another is omega-3 fatty acids. The recommended dosage is 5,000, to start Milligrams, I believe.
Speaker 1:Excuse me if I missed that out. Are those threes or sixes and nines as well? Because, or is it just? It's just threes?
Speaker 2:Just threes, because sixes and nines are considered to be inflammatory. Okay so yeah, so watch out with, like canola oil and stuff like that. Another one I recommend is lion's mane. There's a lot of research around mushrooms like lion's mane that help, uh, pathways, communicate uh and grow Um. B complex is another important one. All of our B vitamins Uh, there's a lot there's.
Speaker 1:There's just so many that I could go on and on, but those, those are the main ones, um, and it's uh, it's worth it the investment you know this is something that I've been, you know, uh, you know, talking to some of our guests about, because you know, we feel that there there has to become a point where your brain health is as important as your lung health, your heart health and everything else that they test.
Speaker 1:Right, they hit your knee to make your foot move, your reflexes, you know, they check all panic attacks stem from, you know, a brain that's out of balance, out of whack under the influence of drugs or is damaged, right? So when we, you know, when it's important for you to say, blood tests, right, and I know that there are some blood tests, but we don't have a specific panel that can address the health of health of a brain, do we? Or is there there's there? Is there one that can be made? Is there any blood test that somebody could ask for and say, look, I want to, I want to know, you know, what my brain health is?
Speaker 2:I mean I'd say the closest thing that we have would be going and getting a functional mri or aCT test. Dr Daniel Amen. He offers the SPECT test. That is more of like a three-dimensional way to really look at what's going on in the brain. But I think really the most important thing to know here is that you can get better and to always refocus on how you can get better, because we're playing a game. At the end of the day, if you get shot in the head, you're dead. Right, people intuitively know how important the brain is, but just because they can't see it, I feel that if somebody gets a head injury, you don't see that, and so that's why it's called the invisible epidemic, because it happens and somebody may act all strange and stuff, but they don't know what's going on underneath the surface. So a spec test is potentially a good one to do. They have more and more technologies coming out at cheaper prices where you can get your brain scanned. But ultimately I would just say that what you do matters, so really take care of yourself.
Speaker 1:We're going to dive into some of the things you just said, because that hidden epidemic is exactly what we're talking about. We talk about any brain trunk, right. We have been groomed as a society to think that, oh, sports are safe because, yeah, my kid gets tackled. I'm a semi-pro rugby guy, right, I still play. I'm 62, like an idiot, right, but I love it, but I didn't start until I was 29. And so we think that because they're tackling you know they're tackling, they're getting, you know, landing on the wrestling mats or gymnasts, with all those you know gyrations and the G force of their brain moving around, that because they're OK and they're not crying or they're acting out, they're not angry, they're not mentally ill, that these injuries that are fact occurring daily are okay, it's no problem. So your point that this is a hidden epidemic because we can't see the brain is point on and is exactly why we're in the middle of this epidemic of mental illness because we can't see the brain and these injuries do not show symptoms. So you know, and so you know your point there is very well taken.
Speaker 1:Now let's talk about some of these diagnosis tests. So when I lost my son four years ago, we did not even know much about subconcussive trauma. In fact, there was only two papers on the internet that talked about subconcussive trauma. Now we have QEEGs, functional MRIs, we have spec scans and we have there's one other one out there. I can't put it on the top of my head right now, but all of these scans are available right now and can diagnose aberrations in the brain.
Speaker 1:Tell us a little bit about. You mentioned functional MRI. You mentioned a spec scan, dr Heyman's work. You mentioned a spec scan, dr Amen's work. How do we get you know? How does one you know somebody say somebody like you know that's in their 50s, they play a lot of sports, they're starting to have problems. They listen to our podcast like, oh man, I served in the military for 21 years, a master breacher. Now I'm angry all the time. This is what happened to me two and a half years ago. Right, and all this added up, I want to get my brain checked. You can't go down to the VA, you can't walk into your doctor's offices. These people are completely untrained. We'll talk about this next. In this issue of brain health, how does one you know get one of these tests to evaluate their brain health?
Speaker 2:first of all, I'm sorry to hear about your son and you know, at the end of the day, you have to advocate for yourself, no matter what stage of the journey that you are, and one of the ways of advocating for yourself is to reach out to doctors and tell them what's going on, see if they can manage to get it paid by insurance in some way, shape or form. To be quite honest, I don't deal with a lot of insurance because I'm in the alternative medicine field holistic medicine but I would recommend that you and the family and the person that suffered from the brain injury need to be the biggest advocate and do it, whatever it takes to get through and tell people that can you help me with insurance Advocate Look up the definitions or terms, however, that we can do this to get the scan and ultimately, if you have to pay out of pocket, it's worth it, because this is your brain and there's nothing more important.
Speaker 1:True words have not been spoken on this show, sir. This is really really cool. So let's talk about your transformation, your medicine approach. You mentioned that you personally have done meditation and supplemented, improved your supplementation. You got rid of bad thoughts, got rid of bad activities. I see the book behind your head Brain Rescue. Tell us a little bit about your approach to healing the brain. Is there a process? Is there certain things that people can do in a sequence that you recommend? Well, what is your approach to? You know, neural transformation and improving the brain health of anyone.
Speaker 2:Sure, and thanks for asking. So really, my approach is combining the best of both worlds, both Eastern medicine with its wide variety of looking at the human body, chinese medicine, ayurvedic medicine, all of that, but combining that with Western medicine, with the science and with the logic and the analytical data, metrics, health metrics, to get the best results. So in my new book that's coming out hopefully early next year we had to postpone it a little bit I'll be unveiling what I call the rebound method, and the rebound method is stands for the R is for refocus, so refocus, and that includes rest, exercise, fueling your brain, observing consistency, understanding and supplementation. So that's the first pillar. It's a step up approach. The second is engage, making sure that you're engaging and activating your brain to make sure that you're getting the best results.
Speaker 2:And then the B stands for brain, which is the five principles of neuroplasticity. So I call it breathing, repetition, association, intensity and novelty, and I don't want to elaborate too much. But the O stands for optimize, because once you get past a certain threshold that we're going to want to optimize things. The O stands for optimize, cause once you get past a certain threshold that we're going to want to optimize things. The U stands for unleash, really using the power of the mind. The N stands for nexus, which is the nexus of connection, so like very high level understanding and diving into, like the subatomic particle, very kind of complex stuff. But then the D, which is the most important pillar, is dedicate yourself to a long-term recovery.
Speaker 1:Wow, and that's going to come out in your new book next year.
Speaker 1:Yes, sir, it's going to be out, hopefully by the final release will be um somewhere around february or march and that last part that you said d is critical to what we see in our, you know, veterans and athletes out there, because this is not something I mean it's. You're not going to fix it like a broken arm, right? You're going to go on this journey to improve your brain. You're not going to fix it like a broken arm, right. You're going to go on this journey to improve your brain health. You're going to try a multiplicity of alternative and innovative approaches to getting brain health, Because you literally are. And then, once you find this path whether it's eating clean, you know, getting rid of all those bad thoughts and chemicals and all that you actually want to dedicate yourself to this path that's going to give you a longer life, a cleaner life, a fuller life and better engagements. And I know this personally. You know I haven't, you know, been a veteran who I could drink a half case of beer at a party and just enjoy myself.
Speaker 1:I did it for 20-some years. Right now a six-pack lasts me me a month and I've just really never felt better. So you know that dedication is absolutely huge and there is some hundred percent. And it was something else you mentioned too is being an advocate. Talk about the importance of education, especially in a world when our medical to include nursing and doctors our psychological and in sports, printing and coaching communities and in the veteran side, the VA, are mostly or completely unaware of the potential for brain damage because it's hidden, because you can't see it right, how important it is for these people to be educated when they go in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, as you said, education is really everything, because it's the cornerstone for empowerment, because when you understand, have a foundational level of understanding of whatever it is brain health, health in general, or even like how to get better at golf. If you have a foundational understanding, it's like building a bridge, you know, like it's building what you need to empower yourself. And so, unfortunately, with the medical system, the way it's set up, doctors are indoctrinated. System, the way it's set up, doctors are indoctrinated. Basically, they're subconsciously indoctrinated to a system. But if you look at the word doctor, it means simply, if you look it up in Latin, it stands for docere, which means to teach. So if you look up that, the job of the doctor is to teach, it's to educate, it's to help them understand so that they can empower themselves. And unfortunately it's been alleviated in the system.
Speaker 1:Well, I will push back to one thing is I've been golfing for a long time and I don't think you can ever get better at golf. I'll tell you that right now.
Speaker 2:I'm a horrible golfer.
Speaker 1:As a matter of fact, I just gave my golf. I gave up a long time ago, you know.
Speaker 1:I gave my golf clips to my nephew to take back to Germany. That's how good I am. But you know, and I want our listeners to understand, how important an alternative approach to brain health is, because they are going to go to these indoctrinated doctors that only know the system of therapy and SSRIs and SRNIs and all the benzos that are used, because it's what the book says, right. Yet we are fully aware that there are so many other modalities out there, technical modalities like transcranial magnetic stimulation, photobiomodulation, vagus nerve stimulation. You mentioned hyperbaric oxygen therapy yet these are all out of pocket, all of them aren't covered.
Speaker 1:Yet you know that the the modus operandi, which is, hey, let's use drugs and therapy in the case of a brain injury, does nothing to heal the brain. We are literally relying on people with brain damage to just heal on their own. We don't give them supplements, we don't give them a darn thing other than drugs to deal with the mental illnesses or the symptoms of the brain that emanate from, you know, behavioral, psychological, cognitive on that side. But we're not doing anything when people have a brain injury to keep them breathing.
Speaker 1:My son-in-law had a brain tumor removed two months ago. Right, he comes back. You know what they gave him when he left the hospital to improve his brain health? Nothing. He left the hospital after having a big chunk of his brain removed at 28 years old and he was not given a darn thing to help his brain heal. This is not even a consideration in every car accident, every operation in the brain. In America Nobody is getting post-operative supplementation, post-operative care, even our veterans, right? It's like all right, hey, you know, you're stable, you're alive, go home. Right, but not a darn thing. And that's why alternatives come in, because these FDA approved, scientific evidence based modalities just aren't working. What are your comments to that?
Speaker 2:just aren't working. What are your comments to that? God, you hit so many really important points there that there's absolutely like you said they're either given nothing or they're given the wrong stuff which is even worse when you think about it. Given like Ambien to sleep, given benzos or painkillers.
Speaker 1:Working on my electricity here, so it's not you, go for it.
Speaker 2:No, I'll do it. And my friend, kevin Ballester, who wrote the book how to Feed a Brain. He's exposed how hospitals give corn syrup to people that are in comas, how hospitals give corn syrup to people that are in comas, which that's one of the most inflammatory things that you can do for the brain. Yeah, people that are in comas are fed corn syrup. Or even worse things Like here I'm going to feed your brain corn syrup and expect it to get better. That is crazy, sorry man. Your brain corn syrup and expect it to get better. That's so like crazy, sorry man. I just uh yeah, it's.
Speaker 2:It's absolutely excuse my language, but fucking bonkers I have to agree, man, that is insane.
Speaker 1:I cannot even imagine I mean right now the quality of brain post. You know, operative brain care in this country is. It's crazy. And your point, besides charging $100 for an aspirin, right, we're going to give somebody food syrup and impact the health of the brain negatively after an operation. You know, doc, I'll tell you, man, we have so far to go on this issue, so far to go, and that's the Purposes podcast. So, as we close out, tell us about yourself. How do people find you Websites? Obviously you have a book that's been published behind you. Tell us a little bit about yourself and what you have coming up so our guests can track on you and get to know you better.
Speaker 2:Sure, and thanks again, bruce. I really appreciate the mission. I actually am writing a section in the book. It's called A Doctor with a Broken Brain because they told me, like with the Broken Brains podcast, that I had a broken brain and that I was going to have to learn to live with it. So that's the irony of it. But they can find me at Dr Brody Miller across all social media platforms D-R-B-R-O-D-Y-M-I-L-L-E-R at Dr Brody Miller and you can go to my website, drbrodymillercom Once again drbrodymillercom. And then also they can sign up to the priority wait list for my new book, brain Rescue, where they'll get 50% off of the book, the first two chapters for free, and they'll also be able to engage in a private WhatsApp community to help empower them and educate them. And it's all about memory. So it's called Brain Rescue a 90-day blueprint to reclaim your memory after a brain injury or concussion. And you can go to dr-sideways-brocom and then backslash priority underscore list and I can put that in the show notes or whatever.
Speaker 1:We'll definitely put that on when we publish the podcast. So, dr Miller, cannot thank you enough for coming on the show. We covered so much great stuff. We're going to have you back on once your book gets out. Man, let's get that book out there. I'm going to sign up for it today.
Speaker 1:Cannot thank you enough for sharing your experience, your expertise, with our gang and, before we go, just want to remind everybody about the tailgate. Also, remember we do have youth contact sports and broken brains. Our book is free. You can go to the website, download that. Please get the. You know, know the facts, as Dr Miller's tested Know. Be an advocate for your child. Be an advocate for yourself as a veteran, because you're going to come across tons of people, whether it's in contact sports or in the veteran community, that don't know what they're talking about, and you have to be informed because your brain health is at risk. Cannot thank you enough for coming on the show. Welcome to just another great talk. Cannot thank you enough, dr Miller. God bless you and take care. Thank you, take care Bye. Thank you.